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The bits and pieces you have posted is more than a bit FUBAR. 1976 (83,000)-1980 (145,001"Ī statement from a Saxquest forum thread that might help support my earlier response to the initial question Most of these records were destroyed along with many previous records.
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Serial numbers from 1972-1976 are inconclusive. Conn's reputation suffered tremendously until Daniel Henkin purchased the company from MacMillan in 1980. After 1972, ALL Conn horns were made in Mexico. The Nogales horns were not built by the same legendary craftsmen as those made at the Elkhart facility, and the quality was not nearly as good. In 1968, Conn aquired the Best manufacturing facility in Nogales, Arizona, and all production was moved to Nogales, closing the Elkhart plants completely by the end of 1970. At least to the best of my knowledge, no 6M's or 10M's were made at the Nogales plant or in Mexico. The 6M and 10M were still manufactured until the closing of the Elkhart factory in 1969. The directors model horns (14M alto, 16M tenor) introduced in 1955 The famous "Naked Lady" engraving disappears in 1959. Horns made after 1947 did not have rolled tone holes. Up until late 1968, horns were still made in Elkhart Ind.
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"1948-1968 The later Pro M series, Directors models and Connstellation models. The manufacturers simply made their lesser lines into student horns by dumbing down features and marketing to a young audience. Check out the Conn Director, The King Cleveland, The Bundy Special, The Buescher Aristocrat etc. There are alot of under valued horns out there that suffer under the weight of the reputation slandered by later models. Its not a pro horn but if a guy were on a budget and wanted to play alongside players who have more expensive horns without missing a beat in terms of sound quality. In fact, it might even compete with a late model east lake 20. I bought one for 65.00 in its original case and hardly used at all. these horns play great and can be had cheap on ebay. Look closely at an early model Cleveland and you will see similar key cups, same bell to body brace, and locking nuts on the hinge tubes. The early ones were made with features similar to that of the Super20 though not made to be like the Super 20. the later ones suck and are designated as a 613(?). Another good example of a great sounding horn is the early Cleveland. I've heard it rumored that Conn used Chu berry/ New Wonder body tubes for the Director line initially, with different key work. You see alot of vintage horns that were not top of the line yet played very well because they had alot of the features of a horn that had been their top of the line in the past. the concept of a 'student' horn is a later development as the large manufacturers realized that the young market would not be able to distinguish differences between horns that were made well and horns that were made cheaply. One thing to consider is that alot of the so-called student model vintage horns were not considered to be student model horns at the time they were manufactured. On the other hand, I have played an early model like the one you describe and I honestly believe they have a chu berry/ transitional like quality to the sound. The later models are really not very good.
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If there is a letter at the beginning of the serial number it was made in Mexico, and it is definitely a later model. the earlier models were in fact much better than the later ones. The bell and body seems to be very solid with thick brass and a dull finish (not shiny lacquer).Īre there any Conn experts out there who know much about this era Conn Director? I guess it is one of the early ones but does that mean it was made to a higher standard than the later productions? This has prompted me to try to find out a bit more about the Conn Director - are there any differences in those made during the 1950s and 1960s? One thing I have noticed is that my horn has a serial number that does not seem to be on the Conn serial number charts. Last week I was talking about this to my sax teacher who was again telling me that my current horn has a great sound and he said I should stick with it.
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So over recent months I have been looking to upgrade to a 6M model, partly to discover the benefits of playing a better standard horn. I also notice on ebay that the price for a Shooting Star horn is generally very low.
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I've been playing a Conn Director for a few years and am constantly seeing references on the net about it being a student model of poor quality.
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